I wonder if Colt added the 8 when they did the initial conversion? Both numbers come back as being an 1860. The one on the butt is the same as the one on the frame, except that the one on the frame has an extra 8 on it in a different font and oddly spaced. Army and several other manufactures to build the venerable Colt 1911A1 (the Army designation for the improved version that was adopted in 1925). I wonder what'll happen when I try to letter an 1860 that has been cartridge converted, apparently twice, and has 2 different serial numbers. During WWII the need for these sidearms exceeded Colt Manufacturing Company’s capacity compared to the war effort’s needs and contracts were signed between the U.S. It seems that there is more to the Colt letter database than any of us realize. Has anyone here got a WWII 1911 made by other than Colt, and have you tried to letter it? If so, what happened? During this time frame, pistols were not necessarily shipped in numerical order. And the 1123084 Colt 1911A1 was shipped to Springfield Armory in one of about Five different shipments from Septemuntil about October 19, 1943. I'll be curious to see what happens when I letter the gun. The 2001462 Remington Rand 1911A1 was made I believe in December 1944. Granted, these were made under license, so I guess Colt would have records, but I was still surprised. All of them came back with a date on the Colt Website. On a further whim, I input a few random numbers from serial number ranges listed as assigned to other manufacturers, and then I even found pics online of non Colt 1911A1's made during the War and put them in. On a whim, I typed in the number from my Remington Rand 1911A1, and it came back saying made in 1944, which aligns to several other online lists of who made what during the War. As part of my prep work, I am inputting the serial number of all my Colts into their online serial number lookup thing. Good going.I am getting ready to letter everything in my collection that can be lettered, including my Colts. Regardless, you got a super buy on yours. The slide stop could have been mixed up with another man's gun during cleaning. So I would not discount the checkered main spring as not being the original part to the gun. 1,575.00 - Used.45 ACP WW2 CMP SERVICE GRADE 1943 REMINGTON RAND 1911A1 ANNISTON 11-82 WWII 1911 Sold Location: Youngstown, OH 44514 Sold Date: 12:00:00 AM: 1,626.00 - Used REMINGTON RAND M1911 A1. I am not an expert by any means on these, but I have read when one manufacturer of military firearms ran out of a particular part they were supplied with the needed parts from any of the other makers. When I found it the wood WW1 grips were still on it and the only reason they were is that the screw bushing had unscrewed from the frame. Since the WW1 double diamond wood grips are worth much more than the plastic I don't think they were installed anytime recent and I would suspect during the War, since as you said, he may have like the feel of the wood better. I wonder when your grips were changed? It could easily have been done by the original owner while he was in the service just because he liked them better. 30-06 Springfield C&R Rifle Made in 1943 with FLAMING BOMB Marked Barrel. Your finish looks very similar to mine too. PROPERTY REMINGTON-RAND Model 1911A1 Pistol Govt WWII C&R. REMINGTON RAND MODEL1911A1 SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. From what I've read it's not at all unusual for these early Type 3 pistols to come with a variety of early or late pattern parts, just whatever happened to be available when they were assembling the pistol. 95 Free shipping Original WW2 USGI 1911a1 Slide Stop Checkered Colt Remington Rand Ithaca 1911. (C) REMINGTON RAND 1911A1 PISTOL WITH NOTARIZED STATEMENT ATTRIBUTING IT TO WALTER SMITH. Great looking pistol - thanks for posting it! It's only about 1,000 or so digits off from mine, and it looks like the only differences are the mainspring housing and slide stop.
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